When I posted my expansion draft preview recently, the subject that stirred up the most debate was this one. Anyone who's followed MLS for a number of years knows that it's a bit of a mystery. When exactly do Generation Adidas players graduate, and what are the criteria?
Basically, players are supposed to graduate when they no longer need the roster protection that it provides. If a player has become a full time starter, then they can easily move up to the senior roster. Players can also leave the program without being moved up by being waived (like David Arvizu, for one); in old press releases such instances were still called graduating. The general length of the contract and the maximum time in the program seems to be four years, though several players have gotten five (Seth Trembly, Devin Barclay, and I believe Craig Capano, so their injuries may have been a factor). That's why I feel Jed Zayner is a lock to graduate after this, his fourth year.
I've always assumed that it was based on minutes played, and that's a pretty good guideline. The interesting thing about this year is that so many GA rookies are getting significant playing time, raising the possibility that many of them could graduate after one year. That's what I want to focus on for right now. What exactly has it taken in the past for a player to graduate after a single season from GA (or Project-40 as it was formerly known)?
I've listed below every member of the program since 2000, and their stats for their first season in the league. I didn't use earlier players for several reasons. First, previous years saw players allocated to teams rather than drafted. Only 3/12 players in 2000 were allocated. Second, some players were graduated in early years with very little playing time. Like Chris Albright, who signed in mid-season and played only 347 minutes. Or Dema Kovalenko, graduated after 291 minutes. Or Tim Howard, graduated after 90 minutes (one game) in 1998. I think that those types of graduations really aren't applicable today. Since 2000, there hasn't been anything like that.
Notes:
This is the list from the 2009 MLS Fact & Record Book. Some players (such as Ramon Nunez) may have had similar protected status but aren't included below.
The three columns below (minutes, games played, games started) include only regular season games.
First Year GA Player Stats
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| Grad? | MIN | PCT | GP | PCT | GS | PCT | | 2000 | Garcia, N | yes | 2916 | 100% | 32 | 100% | 32 | 100% | | 2005 | Parkhurst | yes | 2880 | 100% | 32 | 100% | 32 | 100% | | 2006 | Kljestan | yes | 2676 | 93% | 32 | 100% | 31 | 97% | | 2000 | Pierce | yes | 2600 | 88% | 29 | 91% | 29 | 91% | | 2003 | Clark, R | yes | 2590 | 92% | 28 | 93% | 28 | 93% | | 2004 | Marshall, C | yes | 2446 | 91% | 28 | 93% | 27 | 90% | | 2000 | Bocanegra | yes | 2402 | 81% | 27 | 84% | 27 | 84% | | 2007 | Edu | yes | 2180 | 81% | 25 | 83% | 25 | 83% | | 2006 | Wynne | yes | 2170 | 75% | 28 | 88% | 23 | 72% | | 2005 | Guzan | yes | 2079 | 72% | 24 | 75% | 23 | 72% | | 2004 | Dempsey | yes | 2024 | 75% | 24 | 80% | 23 | 77% | | 2000 | Rimando | no | 2002 | 68% | 22 | 69% | 22 | 69% | | 2002 | Gray | yes | 1780 | 69% | 25 | 89% | 20 | 71% | | 2003 | Magee | yes | 1709 | 61% | 29 | 97% | 19 | 63% | | 2000 | Convey | no | 1614 | 55% | 22 | 69% | 18 | 56% | | 2006 | Peterson | no | 1548 | 54% | 28 | 88% | 17 | 53% | | 2000 | Califf | yes | 1518 | 51% | 18 | 56% | 16 | 50% | | 2004 | Cochrane | no | 1459 | 54% | 18 | 60% | 18 | 60% | | 2002 | Martino | yes | 1455 | 56% | 22 | 79% | 15 | 54% | | 2004 | Adu | no | 1440 | 53% | 30 | 100% | 14 | 47% | | 2003 | Pause | yes | 1354 | 49% | 23 | 77% | 15 | 50% | | 2001 | Barclay | no | 1324 | 54% | 23 | 85% | 12 | 44% | | 2006 | Sturgis | no | 1247 | 43% | 15 | 47% | 15 | 47% | | 2002 | Davis, B | yes | 1246 | 49% | 24 | 86% | 12 | 43% | | 2005 | Freeman | no | 1217 | 42% | 20 | 63% | 14 | 44% | | 2008 | Espinoza, R | no | 1169 | 43% | 22 | 73% | 12 | 40% | | 2001 | Carrieri | no | 1081 | 45% | 19 | 73% | 11 | 42% | | 2007 | Soumare | no | 1072 | 40% | 19 | 63% | 11 | 37% | | 2005 | Ward, T | no | 1034 | 36% | 13 | 41% | 11 | 34% | | 2001 | Quaranta | no | 949 | 40% | 16 | 62% | 10 | 38% | | 2008 | Beltran | no | 936 | 35% | 15 | 50% | 10 | 33% | | 2005 | Moor | no | 936 | 33% | 20 | 63% | 9 | 28% | | 2006 | Kamara | no | 930 | 32% | 19 | 59% | 9 | 28% | | 2004 | Grabavoy | no | 928 | 34% | 15 | 50% | 11 | 37% | | 2008 | Guarda | no | 822 | 30% | 12 | 40% | 9 | 30% | | 2005 | Watson, J | no | 818 | 28% | 19 | 59% | 6 | 19% | | 2003 | Lewis, R | no | 798 | 28% | 13 | 43% | 7 | 23% | | 2003 | Eskandarian | no | 728 | 26% | 23 | 77% | 5 | 17% | | 2003 | Jaqua | no | 712 | 26% | 20 | 67% | 5 | 17% | | 2003 | Gaven | no | 691 | 25% | 12 | 40% | 7 | 23% | | 2008 | Myers, C
| no | 681 | 25% | 10 | 33% | 7 | 23% | | 2003 | Alvarez, A | no | 655 | 23% | 15 | 50% | 5 | 17% | | 2007 | Rogers | no | 598 | 22% | 10 | 33% | 6 | 20% | | 2005 | Barrett, C | no | 597 | 21% | 20 | 63% | 4 | 13% | | 2001 | Buddle | no | 556 | 23% | 17 | 65% | 5 | 19% | | 2008 | Avila | no | 508 | 19% | 14 | 47% | 3 | 10% | | 2004 | Szetela | no | 374 | 14% | 8 | 27% | 4 | 13% | | 2006 | Altidore | no | 330 | 11% | 7 | 22% | 3 | 9% | | 2002 | Akwari | no | 325 | 13% | 7 | 25% | 3 | 11% | | 2005 | Pore | no | 285 | 10% | 8 | 25% | 4 | 13% | | 2001 | Downing | no | 279 | 11% | 5 | 19% | 3 | 11% | | 2001 | Klinger, M | no | 272 | 11% | 9 | 35% | 2 | 8% | | 2001 | Bardales | no | 270 | 11% | 12 | 46% | 1 | 4% | | 2007 | Seitz | no | 270 | 10% | 3 | 10% | 3 | 10% | | 2001 | Johnson, E | no | 263 | 11% | 11 | 42% | 1 | 4% | | 2004 | Goodson | no | 247 | 9% | 5 | 17% | 2 | 7% | | 2000 | Asad | no | 246 | 8% | 8 | 25% | 2 | 6% | | 2003 | LeBlanc | no | 225 | 8% | 7 | 23% | 2 | 7% | | 2006 | Movsisyan | no | 221 | 8% | 10 | 31% | 1 | 3% | | 2006 | Sims | no | 219 | 8% | 9 | 28% | 2 | 6% | | 2005 | John, W | no | 200 | 7% | 6 | 19% | 2 | 6% | | 2000 | Cooks, M | no | 165 | 6% | 5 | 16% | 2 | 6% | | 2008 | Nyarko | no | 159 | 6% | 9 | 30% | 2 | 7% | | 2003 | Gonzalez, G | no | 129 | 5% | 6 | 20% | 1 | 3% | | 2000 | Beckerman | no | 110 | 4% | 2 | 6% | 1 | 3% | | 2001 | Burciaga | no | 93 | 4% | 3 | 11% | 2 | 7% | | 2002 | Capano | no | 92 | 4% | 4 | 14% | 1 | 4% | | 2002 | Stone | no | 91 | 3% | 4 | 14% | 1 | 4% | | 2005 | Besagno | no | 69 | 2% | 2 | 6% | 1 | 3% | | 2007 | Wallace | no | 69 | 3% | 1 | 3% | 1 | 3% | | 2007 | Colaluca | no | 62 | 2% | 4 | 13% | 0 | 0% | | 2002 | Mapp | no | 28 | 1% | 3 | 11% | 0 | 0% | | 2004 | Gardner | no | 25 | 1% | 2 | 7% | 0 | 0% | | 2000 | Trembly | no | 21 | 1% | 4 | 13% | 0 | 0% | | 2008 | O'Brien, C | no | 19 | 1% | 1 | 3% | 0 | 0% | | 2000 | Salas, S | no | 18 | 1% | 1 | 3% | 0 | 0% | | 2008 | Shea | no | 17 | 1% | 0 | 0% | 2 | 7% | | 2006 | McCarty, D | no | 12 | 0% | 2 | 6% | 0 | 0% | | 2006 | Ianni | no | 2 | 0% | 2 | 6% | 0 | 0% | | 2007 | Sesay | no | 1 | 0% | 1 | 3% | 0 | 0% | | 2007 | Arguez | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2006 | Arvizu | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2004 | Bradley | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2003 | Carroll | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2001 | Countess | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2004 | Cronin | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2007 | Ibrahim, F | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2007 | Igwe | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2005 | Jimenez | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2005 | Kirk, Q | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2008 | Lambo | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2000 | Longo | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2008 | Nimo | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2001 | Saavedra | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2003 | Stokes | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2003 | Thompson, J | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2008 | Valentino | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2006 | Wagner | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | | 2006 | Zayner | no | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | 0 | 0% | Thoughts:
- I almost didn't include 2000 in this list because of Rimando. He clearly won the starting role for the Fusion, and it's shocking how for some unknown reason he didn't graduate. And to a lesser extent, Convey.
- Anyway, besides Rimando nine years ago, every single player with at least 1,700 minutes played has graduated.
- Other strange decisions? Cochrane and Peterson stand out as players who probably should've graduated. Both started more than half their team's games, but kept their GA status (both through their third season actually). I suppose you could've also made a case for Adu, but it's no surprise that he got a second year. He didn't exactly get those minutes on merit.
- Among graduates with lesser minutes played, Davis and Marshall were both rookie of the year nominees in 2002, with the latter winning. Califf, I would imagine graduated because he also was a nominee. Although, Adu and Quaranta were both nominated but kept their status.
- Pause is a curious one. I really wouldn't expect a player to graduate with those kind of numbers. And as someone mentioned on Bigsoccer while I was researching this, he had a lot of playing time early in the season and very little near the end and the playoffs. 10 starts in the first 12 games, and only 5 in the last 18.
2009's GA Class
So what about this year's GA rookie class? Here's their stats after this weekend's action:
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| MIN | GP | GS | | 2009 | Gonzalez, O | 2222 | 25 | 25 | | 2009 | Frei | 2115 | 24 | 24 | | 2009 | Wallace | 1995 | 25 | 22 | | 2009 | Alston | 1709 | 19 | 19 | | 2009 | Zakuani | 1607 | 24 | 19 | | 2009 | Hall | 1592 | 19 | 17 | | 2009 | Husidic | 257 | 7 | 3 | | 2009 | Cruz | 107 | 6 | 0 | | 2009 | Marosevic | 47 | 4 | 0 | The top three are incredible locks to graduate, while the next two should barring anything crazy. Hall, on the other hand, may not be a lock. Two more starts would get him over that 1,700 minute mark. However, NY only has five games left, and he didn't play yesterday. If he didn't play another minute, I'd say that he might not make it. However, Carlos Johnson did get another red card, so that's unlikely. I'd still project Hall as graduating also.
Second Year Graduates
What does it take for players to graduate after their second season? Listing only players who played 500 minutes in one of the two years:
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| Grad? | Year 1 | Year 2 | | 2004 | Bradley | yes | 0 | 2628 | | 2003 | Gaven | yes | 691 | 2578 | | 2007 | Soumare | yes | 1072 | 2514 | | 2004 | Goodson | yes | 247 | 2488 | | 2003 | Carroll | yes | 0 | 2438 | | 2007 | Rogers | yes | 598 | 2334 | | 2000 | Rimando | yes | 2002 | 2300 | | 2005 | Moor | yes | 936 | 2280 | | 2005 | Freeman | yes | 1217 | 2131 | | 2003 | Jaqua | yes | 712 | 1836 | | 2001 | Carrieri | yes | 1081 | 1830 | | 2003 | Eskandarian | yes | 728 | 1627 | | 2006 | McCarty, D | yes | 12 | 1604 | | 2004 | Adu | yes | 1440 | 1487 | | 2006 | Altidore | yes | 330 | 1399 | | 2002 | Mapp | yes | 28 | 1384 | | 2001 | Buddle | yes | 556 | 1304 | | 2006 | Sturgis | yes | 1247 | 1146 | | 2003 | Lewis, R | no | 798 | 1144 | | 2006 | Peterson | no | 1548 | 1118 | | 2004 | Szetela | no | 374 | 1117 | | 2002 | Stone | no | 91 | 1057 | | 2006 | Movsisyan | no | 221 | 993 | | 2005 | Kirk | no | 0 | 993 | | 2000 | Convey | yes | 1614 | 992 | | 2000 | Asad | no | 246 | 978 | | 2006 | Ianni | no | 2 | 961 | | 2001 | Quaranta | yes | 949 | 949 | | 2005 | Barrett, C | no | 597 | 780 | | 2004 | Cochrane | no | 1459 | 776 | | 2001 | Downing | no | 279 | 667 | | 2004 | Grabavoy | no | 928 | 656 | | 2005 | Ward, T | no | 1034 | 605 | | 2007 | Igwe | no | 0 | 568 | | 2005 | Pore | no | 285 | 563 | | 2006 | Kamara | no | 930 | 475 | | 2003 | Alvarez, A | no | 655 | 374 | | 2001 | Barclay | no | 1324 | 321 | | 2005 | Watson, J | no | 818 | 104 | Once again, Peterson confounds me (especially when Sturgis did it). He did get less playing time and less starts in the second year than the first. The second season seems to matter more than the first.
2008's GA Class
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| Year 1 | Year 2 | | 2008 | Nyarko | 159 | 1617 | | 2008 | Beltran | 936 | 1514 | | 2008 | Shea | 17 | 720 | | 2008 | Espinoza, R | 1169 | 604 | | 2008 | Avila | 508 | 304 | | 2008 | Guarda | 822 | 217 | | 2008 | Myers, C
| 681 | 94 | | 2008 | O'Brien, C | 19 | 0 | | 2008 | Lambo | 0 | 0 | | 2008 | Nimo | 0 | 0 | | 2008 | Valentino | 0 | 0 | No second year GA player who has received the amount of playing time that Nyarko and Beltran have gotten has failed to graduate. So you can see why I think they're locks. Espinoza, I had previously projected as graduated, and I think that was a mistake. Although, part of that was based on him getting more playing time as the season continued, and he hasn't got much. I think now he's almost a lock to not graduate, so that's good news for Wizards fans.
I hope this clears things up a bit! Once the rosters are set (9/15 deadline), I'll revisit my expansion draft projections.Labels: Generation Adidas, Jacob Peterson, Nick Rimando, Project 40 |
Comments on "Graduating from Generation Adidas"
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Matt said ... (7:25 AM, September 14, 2009) :
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Mike said ... (9:09 AM, September 14, 2009) :
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scaryice said ... (9:03 PM, September 14, 2009) :
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Harpo Marx said ... (7:29 AM, October 09, 2009) :
post a commentDid Quaranta really play the exact same number of minutes his second year (949)? I tried to look this up but I couldn't find the full stats for 2002 in a couple minutes of google searching.
It's a conspiracy theory, but I wonder if the Wizards aren't really playing Espinoza strictly so that he won't graduate this year...
Matt: Yes he did:
http://web.mlsnet.com/players/bio.jsp?team=t103&player=quaranta_s&playerId=qua563610&statType=career
Mike: That would be smart on their part.
I thought that a player's age factored into the equation, not just minutes played?